Essex school closures (From Clacton and Frinton Gazette)
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Essex school closures
7:26am Monday 6th February 2012 in Letters
Appleton School, Benfleet. Open from 10am.
Billericay School. Open from 11am. Check the school's website.
Canewdon Endowed Church of England Voluntary Controlled Primary School and Nursery.
Colchester County High School for Girls.
Deanes School, Thundersley.
Enchanted Wood Day Nursery, Thundersley.
The Endeavour School, Brentwood.
Friars Grove Primary School, Colchester.
Glenwood Special School, Thundersley.
Hamford Primary School, Walton.
James Hornsby, Basildon.
King Edmund School, Rochford. Open from 10.30am. Check school website.
Kingsdown, Eastwood near Southend.
Laindon Park Primary Schoo, Basildon.
Lancaster Special School, Southend.
Mayflower High School, Billericay. Open from 11am.
Moulsham Infant and Junior School, Chelmsford.
Pioneer, Basildon.
Porters Grange, Southend.
Priory School, Southend.
Queen Boudica Primary School, Colchester.
Ramsey College, Halstead.
Ramsden Hall School, Billericay Southview School, Witham St Benedict's College, Colchester.
Richmond Avenue Primary School, Southend.
Stambridge Primary School, Rochford district.
White Court School & Early Years, Braintree.
Willow Brook Primary School and Nursery, Colchester.
Woodlands School, Basildon.
Comments(60)
Frankandstein
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8:29am Mon 6 Feb 12
Also,why are some of the schools closing early?Bizarre!
EdLoach
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8:42am Mon 6 Feb 12
InTheKnowOk
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9:35am Mon 6 Feb 12
The Cater Wood Creeper
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9:56am Mon 6 Feb 12
Anyway none of them would be able to get to school this morning as their mummies won't want to drive the 4x4 on the school run in the snow would they? Might have to puton some proper outoor clothes rther than rolling out of the house in their jimjams with a spliff on and a can in the other hand....
ShrimperSS0
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9:57am Mon 6 Feb 12
The Yellow Peril
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10:13am Mon 6 Feb 12
meadowlady
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10:13am Mon 6 Feb 12
Jodaius
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10:15am Mon 6 Feb 12
I hope the 10% are feeling suitably silly. No doubt a small number will have legitimate reasons (e.g. remote rural locations, boiler problems, etc.), but it is particularly telling when closed schools are located very close to open schools.
The Cater Wood Creeper
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10:16am Mon 6 Feb 12
Arthur Fonzarelli
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10:17am Mon 6 Feb 12
Say It As It Is OK?
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10:18am Mon 6 Feb 12
meadowlady wrote:I think the answer is Yes, and with just cause! The Schools always give up too easily and blame H&S rather than make an effort. Not a very good example being set to our children!
Is it 'Grumpy old Men/Women Day' today?
shyprincess
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10:28am Mon 6 Feb 12
My son wanted to go as he likes walking in the snow :-) (Can't say the same for me!)
I think we can blame health and safety for the closures.
The Yellow Peril
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10:55am Mon 6 Feb 12
Colonel Kurtz
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11:01am Mon 6 Feb 12
Kentish Alex
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11:27am Mon 6 Feb 12
Say It As It Is OK?
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11:37am Mon 6 Feb 12
Red Tape
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12:20pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Scoot
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1:00pm Mon 6 Feb 12
essexboy22
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1:09pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Ritchie_Hicks
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1:15pm Mon 6 Feb 12
My child's school is in the centre of town and the headteacher lives at Manningtree. He is very firm with his staff and says and has never closed the school. Instead he turns up early, spade in hand, and helps the caretaker clear the road and spread grit. If any of the above schools are closed because staff haven't made it in, those members of staff should be seriously reprimanded. I bet they would have made it if they were self employed!
californianana
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2:44pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Excitation
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5:15pm Mon 6 Feb 12
APR
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5:32pm Mon 6 Feb 12
There used to be some great ice slides in the playground at the front of the school, that's before it became a car park. Back in the 60's, only a handful of teachers drove to school.
Excitation
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5:36pm Mon 6 Feb 12
AnotherSister
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6:04pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Frankandstein
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6:07pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Had to do cross country in the snow and we were told to stop and have a snowball fight in the middle of the run,followed by several forward rolls!
The heating broke down a lot,so we had to spend lessons sitting in our coats.
6079 Smith W
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6:51pm Mon 6 Feb 12
tricklesthegreek
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8:00pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Incidentally, my school was OPEN today, we were out shovelling the pathways at 8am to make sure the children could get in safely. So what excuse did the 35 children in the school who were magically 'sick' today have?
Snow days? Do me a favour, there are ALWAYS some who will use an excuse to have a day off. It's not just teachers. Stop thinking you know it all and stop making judgements about an entire profession based solely upon your extremely limited experience of teachers. Unless you can say you know every single one then stop making general, ridiculously over-exaggerated comments.
APR
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8:06pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Children play out in the snow, walk on pavements with snow and ice, slide down hills on sledges then expect the school paths to be perfectly clear ?
Say It As It Is OK?
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9:45pm Mon 6 Feb 12
tricklesthegreek wrote:Typical whinging teacher syndrome I suspect! Try the real world and you might think differently!
oh DO shut up those of you who jump on the 'lazy teachers' bandwagon. Come and do the job yourself for a term.
Incidentally, my school was OPEN today, we were out shovelling the pathways at 8am to make sure the children could get in safely. So what excuse did the 35 children in the school who were magically 'sick' today have?
Snow days? Do me a favour, there are ALWAYS some who will use an excuse to have a day off. It's not just teachers. Stop thinking you know it all and stop making judgements about an entire profession based solely upon your extremely limited experience of teachers. Unless you can say you know every single one then stop making general, ridiculously over-exaggerated comments.
Frankandstein
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9:58pm Mon 6 Feb 12
tricklesthegreek wrote:Tut, tut!
oh DO shut up those of you who jump on the 'lazy teachers' bandwagon. Come and do the job yourself for a term.
Incidentally, my school was OPEN today, we were out shovelling the pathways at 8am to make sure the children could get in safely. So what excuse did the 35 children in the school who were magically 'sick' today have?
Snow days? Do me a favour, there are ALWAYS some who will use an excuse to have a day off. It's not just teachers. Stop thinking you know it all and stop making judgements about an entire profession based solely upon your extremely limited experience of teachers. Unless you can say you know every single one then stop making general, ridiculously over-exaggerated comments.
Everybody knows you should start a paragraph with a capital letter!
I hope you're not an English teacher ;-)
Teacher85
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10:29pm Mon 6 Feb 12
InTheKnowOk
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11:59pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Excitation wrote:I have a good memory thanks, and can honestly say that in all the years I was at school there was not a closure because of snow, like APR said, the teachers were local, we lived locally, we took a change of clothes and footwear and got on with it.
I think some of you have defective memories, of course the schools closed in the 50s, 60s, 70s etc, maybe only for a day after a big fall but they DID close.
Ritchie_Hicks
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7:54am Tue 7 Feb 12
tricklesthegreek wrote:Teach much?!
oh DO shut up those of you who jump on the 'lazy teachers' bandwagon. Come and do the job yourself for a term.
Incidentally, my school was OPEN today, we were out shovelling the pathways at 8am to make sure the children could get in safely. So what excuse did the 35 children in the school who were magically 'sick' today have?
Snow days? Do me a favour, there are ALWAYS some who will use an excuse to have a day off. It's not just teachers. Stop thinking you know it all and stop making judgements about an entire profession based solely upon your extremely limited experience of teachers. Unless you can say you know every single one then stop making general, ridiculously over-exaggerated comments.
RReeve
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10:07am Tue 7 Feb 12
EASTWOODGIRL
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4:35pm Tue 7 Feb 12
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:So right this man!!!!! These parents should make a stand to these schools. It is totally ridiculous for closure. Deanes school is even on a main road for God sake!!!! This country would grind to a halt if everything shut because of a bit of snow. GET WITH IT.
wouldn't want wobbly little Chelsee, Derwayne et al and their pals falling over and hurting themselves would we?
Anyway none of them would be able to get to school this morning as their mummies won't want to drive the 4x4 on the school run in the snow would they? Might have to puton some proper outoor clothes rther than rolling out of the house in their jimjams with a spliff on and a can in the other hand....
EASTWOODGIRL
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4:36pm Tue 7 Feb 12
collydolly78
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6:18pm Tue 7 Feb 12
turnstone
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11:56am Wed 8 Feb 12
mind you my cousins who lived over in welsh marches it was a different story there school/village was snowed in from time to time but we are talking of much deeper snow but school would still function as soon as it could get some staff but i do think we were tougher in those days? we are turning into a nation of wimps?
alimac69
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12:15pm Wed 8 Feb 12
John the resonator
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12:37pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Arthur Fonzarelli wrote:Quite right but some on here would not dream of letting that get in the way of a good moan.
Schools just cannot win, if they close they are abused by parents for doing so. If they stay open they open themselves up for being taken to court if a child has an ACCIDENT. Aditionally as ofsted does not take into account adverse weather the school gets marked down for poor attendance.
One poster wrote about lazy teachers who can't be Rsed and so on. It is of course the head teacher's decision about closing or not and they normally contact their staff the night before. Those same 'lazy' teachers will then probably use the opportunity to catch up on marking, assessments etc. just like they were doing the previous evening.
John the resonator
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12:46pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Colonel Kurtz wrote:If you actually knew anything about teaching rather than just stereotyping them all you would realise the headteacher makes the decision on balance, normally the night before and then phones the staff.
Health and Safety is being used as an excuse for teachers to have a day off. THE ROADS ARE CLEAR. NO EXCUSES
I reckon many of those teachers will then take the opportunity to catch up on some marking and other paperwork.
Scoot
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2:47pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Ritchie_Hicks
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3:15pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Trainman
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4:16pm Wed 8 Feb 12
In all the time I attended both Markhams Chase as it was then, now Janet Duke and the RIPPED down Laindon High Road School, they never closed ONCE due to the snow.
Cyberpunk
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11:10pm Wed 8 Feb 12
First of all, the vast majority of schools were open and the teachers will have been at work preparing well before many others leave for work. Second, it will be the head or the governors of a school that decide to close it not the teachers so it has nothing to do with teachers being lazy or wanting more days off.
My nearest school stayed open this week but the pupil attendance dropped to around 75%. Am I going to label 25% of parents lazy? No, I'm not because I would hate to put myself in the same category as some of the ignorant half-wits posting on this site. Why not open your minds a little and seek the real truth rather than blindly clinging to your poorly conceived ideas?
wellnow
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7:57am Thu 9 Feb 12
John the resonator
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11:34am Thu 9 Feb 12
Cyberpunk wrote:Yeah but this is after all Echo land. Think of all the exercise they get jumping to the wrong conclusion, flying off the handle and going off at the deep end.
As usual a whole load of ill-informed comments about lazy teachers on here.
First of all, the vast majority of schools were open and the teachers will have been at work preparing well before many others leave for work. Second, it will be the head or the governors of a school that decide to close it not the teachers so it has nothing to do with teachers being lazy or wanting more days off.
My nearest school stayed open this week but the pupil attendance dropped to around 75%. Am I going to label 25% of parents lazy? No, I'm not because I would hate to put myself in the same category as some of the ignorant half-wits posting on this site. Why not open your minds a little and seek the real truth rather than blindly clinging to your poorly conceived ideas?
As you say individual teachers have nothing to do with the decision. If the school is declared open but a particular teacher cannot get in (snowed in living on a rural lane for instance) then it is like any other workplace, managers decide how the the gap is to be closed by colleagues.
Ritchie_Hicks
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11:40am Thu 9 Feb 12
John the resonator wrote:Who are you trying to kid?
Cyberpunk wrote:Yeah but this is after all Echo land. Think of all the exercise they get jumping to the wrong conclusion, flying off the handle and going off at the deep end.
As usual a whole load of ill-informed comments about lazy teachers on here.
First of all, the vast majority of schools were open and the teachers will have been at work preparing well before many others leave for work. Second, it will be the head or the governors of a school that decide to close it not the teachers so it has nothing to do with teachers being lazy or wanting more days off.
My nearest school stayed open this week but the pupil attendance dropped to around 75%. Am I going to label 25% of parents lazy? No, I'm not because I would hate to put myself in the same category as some of the ignorant half-wits posting on this site. Why not open your minds a little and seek the real truth rather than blindly clinging to your poorly conceived ideas?
As you say individual teachers have nothing to do with the decision. If the school is declared open but a particular teacher cannot get in (snowed in living on a rural lane for instance) then it is like any other workplace, managers decide how the the gap is to be closed by colleagues.
John the resonator
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11:43am Thu 9 Feb 12
Ritchie_Hicks wrote:Why do you say that?
John the resonator wrote:Who are you trying to kid?
Cyberpunk wrote:Yeah but this is after all Echo land. Think of all the exercise they get jumping to the wrong conclusion, flying off the handle and going off at the deep end.
As usual a whole load of ill-informed comments about lazy teachers on here.
First of all, the vast majority of schools were open and the teachers will have been at work preparing well before many others leave for work. Second, it will be the head or the governors of a school that decide to close it not the teachers so it has nothing to do with teachers being lazy or wanting more days off.
My nearest school stayed open this week but the pupil attendance dropped to around 75%. Am I going to label 25% of parents lazy? No, I'm not because I would hate to put myself in the same category as some of the ignorant half-wits posting on this site. Why not open your minds a little and seek the real truth rather than blindly clinging to your poorly conceived ideas?
As you say individual teachers have nothing to do with the decision. If the school is declared open but a particular teacher cannot get in (snowed in living on a rural lane for instance) then it is like any other workplace, managers decide how the the gap is to be closed by colleagues.
What is your opinion on this issue?
Ritchie_Hicks
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12:22pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I am not aware of any school being sued for a child slipping on the ice and I believe it to be a misnomer very similar to the incorrect believe that clearing your driveway of snow can result in you being sued if someone slips over…another load of rubbish.
I drove to Stansted, then to a rural area in Tendring and then back to Colchester at 1am on Monday and although it was slow going in the countryside, the roads were quite passable with the use of a little common sense and patience. I made a meeting in Halstead on Monday morning and meanwhile people were phoning in to say they couldn’t get from Wivenhoe to the University; a distance which most could walk in 30 minutes. The excuses given by people for not turning up at work in whatever job they do are, in the majority, excuses given by the work-shy.
John the resonator
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1:56pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Turning to your first paragraph it is not about individual teachers 'not turning up' this situation does not arise because the head will have made a decision beforehand. The concern about being sued for children injuring themselves will be a real one for head teachers in today's litigious compensation culture. They have a set budget and when unexpected things come up like lead being stolen from the roof, stolen computers, damage by pupils etc. it all makes a hole. OK these might be covered by insurance but then premiums skyrocket.
I have a link for you here, if you scroll down the list of claims you will see Essex Council paid £23,000 to a kid who slipped on ice:
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/education/edu
cationnews/8026037/C
ompensation-culture-
in-schools-ruining-e
ducation.
As I said in a couple of earlier posts those same 'workshy' teachers will probably get on with some marking or lesson preparation. Unless of course their own children cannot go to school, in which case they become carers, same as anyone else landed in that situation.
Thanks for the reply though, clearly we see this differently.
Ritchie_Hicks
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2:03pm Thu 9 Feb 12
John the resonator
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7:54pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Ritchie_Hicks wrote:Yes of course you could be right. If it was then I guess there was legal advice from the Local Authority solicitor that those sueing had a reasonable chance of success. In that event the payout could have been higher plus everyone's legal costs.
Indeed we do - I wonder if that £23,000 was awarded by a court or in an out-of-court settlement?
Of course maybe the thing would have been unceremoniously chucked out of court had it gone ahead, bit of a risk though.
Glad I wasn't that headteacher
Ritchie_Hicks
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7:59pm Thu 9 Feb 12
John the resonator wrote:In a country where a man gets £20,000+ compensation for failing to stop for the police, nothing would surprise me...
Ritchie_Hicks wrote:Yes of course you could be right. If it was then I guess there was legal advice from the Local Authority solicitor that those sueing had a reasonable chance of success. In that event the payout could have been higher plus everyone's legal costs.
Indeed we do - I wonder if that £23,000 was awarded by a court or in an out-of-court settlement?
Of course maybe the thing would have been unceremoniously chucked out of court had it gone ahead, bit of a risk though.
Glad I wasn't that headteacher
John the resonator
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8:13pm Thu 9 Feb 12
What was that case about?
Ritchie_Hicks
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8:18pm Thu 9 Feb 12
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-wales-south
-east-wales-16859875
John the resonator
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8:43pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Ritchie_Hicks wrote:Well he was found guilty of several breaches of the law and still came out tops. Crazy.
This is a corker
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-wales-south
-east-wales-16859875
I must admit the police looked a bit hasty charging straight up to the car and bashing it. He might have opened the door if they had told him to. I guess from their position he had driven off and had failed to stop when chased. Idiot had illegal tinted windscreens which won't have helped.
Just shows ya' it's not always young drivers at fault.
Thanks for the link.
Mr Honk
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10:08pm Thu 9 Feb 12
APR says...
8:26am Mon 6 Feb 12
Why are these schools closed ?
Given that most of the children were no doubt playing quite happily in the snow on Sunday.