Essex Police saves estimated £4m this year

Clacton and Frinton Gazette: Police and Crime Commissioner Nick Alston. Police and Crime Commissioner Nick Alston.

ESSEX Police has saved an estimated £4million this financial year.

Police and Crime Commissioner Nick Alston has revealed the force has made the savings primarily from not replacing PCSOs who have left.

Mr Alston said the cash would not be wasted, and would be used to mitigate the £11million in cuts the force faces in the next financial year.

However he said staffing levels will still be under pressure.

Provisional figures for the 2013-14 financial year reveal Essex Police will be about 1-1.5 per cent under budget, roughly £4million.

Most of the money comes from cash allocated to salaries for 360 PCSOs but through natural wastage the number of the officers has dropped to 310.

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5:20pm Mon 10 Mar 14

No1 Shoplifter says...

No1 Shoplifter saves himself £4 million it should of read..
But back to the story. I'm pleased that PCSO's are being cut. Plastic coppers and a waste of tax payers money. (Not that I pay tax anyway).
No1 Shoplifter saves himself £4 million it should of read.. But back to the story. I'm pleased that PCSO's are being cut. Plastic coppers and a waste of tax payers money. (Not that I pay tax anyway). No1 Shoplifter
  • Score: -14

5:31pm Mon 10 Mar 14

mbr1955 says...

4 million pounds saved this year by our Police Force and here I quote 'Most of the money comes from cash allocated to salaries for 360 PCSOs but through natural wastage the number of the officers has dropped to 310' .
So they are telling us that most of this money (4 million pounds) was to pay for 50 PCSO's. I would love to know what a PCSO actually gets paid.!!!!
4 million pounds saved this year by our Police Force and here I quote 'Most of the money comes from cash allocated to salaries for 360 PCSOs but through natural wastage the number of the officers has dropped to 310' . So they are telling us that most of this money (4 million pounds) was to pay for 50 PCSO's. I would love to know what a PCSO actually gets paid.!!!! mbr1955
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5:35pm Mon 10 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

mbr1955 wrote:
4 million pounds saved this year by our Police Force and here I quote 'Most of the money comes from cash allocated to salaries for 360 PCSOs but through natural wastage the number of the officers has dropped to 310' .
So they are telling us that most of this money (4 million pounds) was to pay for 50 PCSO's. I would love to know what a PCSO actually gets paid.!!!!
26 thousand a year
[quote][p][bold]mbr1955[/bold] wrote: 4 million pounds saved this year by our Police Force and here I quote 'Most of the money comes from cash allocated to salaries for 360 PCSOs but through natural wastage the number of the officers has dropped to 310' . So they are telling us that most of this money (4 million pounds) was to pay for 50 PCSO's. I would love to know what a PCSO actually gets paid.!!!![/p][/quote]26 thousand a year carnmountyouknowitmakessense
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5:37pm Mon 10 Mar 14

e5mitch says...

So a £4m saving from losing 50 plastic police officers?!!
That's £80,000 a year for being a PCSO, yeah right!!
So a £4m saving from losing 50 plastic police officers?!! That's £80,000 a year for being a PCSO, yeah right!! e5mitch
  • Score: 2

5:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

stopmoaning1 says...

e5mitch wrote:
So a £4m saving from losing 50 plastic police officers?!!
That's £80,000 a year for being a PCSO, yeah right!!
Read the story, it states the savings are 'primarily' from the PCSO jobs. They don't get paid £80,000 a year. Even with the most basic knowledge of economics, anybody would know that the cost of employing the PCSO would include all of the uniform, any overtime, training, transport, admin etc...all ABOVE salary. So yes, a significant saving.

How can they save more? Get rid of them all.
[quote][p][bold]e5mitch[/bold] wrote: So a £4m saving from losing 50 plastic police officers?!! That's £80,000 a year for being a PCSO, yeah right!![/p][/quote]Read the story, it states the savings are 'primarily' from the PCSO jobs. They don't get paid £80,000 a year. Even with the most basic knowledge of economics, anybody would know that the cost of employing the PCSO would include all of the uniform, any overtime, training, transport, admin etc...all ABOVE salary. So yes, a significant saving. How can they save more? Get rid of them all. stopmoaning1
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5:58pm Mon 10 Mar 14

depotman says...

£4 million saved very good but the crime rate has shot up so was it really worth it I think not its not save to go out alone anymore
£4 million saved very good but the crime rate has shot up so was it really worth it I think not its not save to go out alone anymore depotman
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5:59pm Mon 10 Mar 14

e5mitch says...

stopmoaning1 wrote:
e5mitch wrote:
So a £4m saving from losing 50 plastic police officers?!!
That's £80,000 a year for being a PCSO, yeah right!!
Read the story, it states the savings are 'primarily' from the PCSO jobs. They don't get paid £80,000 a year. Even with the most basic knowledge of economics, anybody would know that the cost of employing the PCSO would include all of the uniform, any overtime, training, transport, admin etc...all ABOVE salary. So yes, a significant saving.

How can they save more? Get rid of them all.
Read the story yourself, it states-
'Most of the money comes from cash ALLOCATED TO SALARIES for 360 PCSOs'.
[quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]e5mitch[/bold] wrote: So a £4m saving from losing 50 plastic police officers?!! That's £80,000 a year for being a PCSO, yeah right!![/p][/quote]Read the story, it states the savings are 'primarily' from the PCSO jobs. They don't get paid £80,000 a year. Even with the most basic knowledge of economics, anybody would know that the cost of employing the PCSO would include all of the uniform, any overtime, training, transport, admin etc...all ABOVE salary. So yes, a significant saving. How can they save more? Get rid of them all.[/p][/quote]Read the story yourself, it states- 'Most of the money comes from cash ALLOCATED TO SALARIES for 360 PCSOs'. e5mitch
  • Score: 1

6:16pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Gay Ray says...

A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner!
A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner! Gay Ray
  • Score: 16

6:53pm Mon 10 Mar 14

british n proud says...

Ok so money has been saved, At what cost, crime up, l dont care what the commissioner says, drug offenses, petty theft, robbery, assaults, rape, anti social behaviour, crime is alive & kicking, why! no visible policing !!!!
Ok so money has been saved, At what cost, crime up, l dont care what the commissioner says, drug offenses, petty theft, robbery, assaults, rape, anti social behaviour, crime is alive & kicking, why! no visible policing !!!! british n proud
  • Score: 7

8:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

seikothrill says...

Gay Ray wrote:
A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner!
Well said
[quote][p][bold]Gay Ray[/bold] wrote: A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner![/p][/quote]Well said seikothrill
  • Score: 6

9:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

blockpaver says...

Gay Ray wrote:
A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner!
It’s worse than this Gay Ray, it costs about £1.5M a year to run the PCC and his office.
[quote][p][bold]Gay Ray[/bold] wrote: A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner![/p][/quote]It’s worse than this Gay Ray, it costs about £1.5M a year to run the PCC and his office. blockpaver
  • Score: 6

9:26pm Mon 10 Mar 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

A man has to do what a man has got to do

Nick Alston knows what he is doing that is why I voted for him.
Unlike some around him.
But rest assured we can sleep at night with him overseeing the helm.

Jack
A man has to do what a man has got to do Nick Alston knows what he is doing that is why I voted for him. Unlike some around him. But rest assured we can sleep at night with him overseeing the helm. Jack A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -4

10:02pm Mon 10 Mar 14

abd123 says...

How can we know if anything said or done by the PCC has any effect on Policing? What is the evidence? Surely the efforts of the thousands of staff would not be greatly affected by one person.
How can we know if anything said or done by the PCC has any effect on Policing? What is the evidence? Surely the efforts of the thousands of staff would not be greatly affected by one person. abd123
  • Score: 1

10:22pm Mon 10 Mar 14

emcee says...

By not replacing the 50 PCSOs Essex Police will only save approxinmately £1m (starting salary around £18k + 14% shift allowance). So there is nothing "primarily" about this part of the £4m savings.

Anyway, putting aside the PCCs attempts at pulling the wool over our eyes (again), we should not judge Essex Police by the money they save but by the crime they solve and by the crime they prevent.
So, it seems, they are still not doing very well, are they?
It is about time the post of PCC is removed. The post really is not fit for purpose other than to put political spin on crime figures and run to the press with a few soundbites justifying the position of the PCC itself.
By not replacing the 50 PCSOs Essex Police will only save approxinmately £1m (starting salary around £18k + 14% shift allowance). So there is nothing "primarily" about this part of the £4m savings. Anyway, putting aside the PCCs attempts at pulling the wool over our eyes (again), we should not judge Essex Police by the money they save but by the crime they solve and by the crime they prevent. So, it seems, they are still not doing very well, are they? It is about time the post of PCC is removed. The post really is not fit for purpose other than to put political spin on crime figures and run to the press with a few soundbites justifying the position of the PCC itself. emcee
  • Score: 6

10:36pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

Gay Ray wrote:
A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner!
Good God, I had to read this far down to get some common sense.

Ditto.

The man is vacuum. Having met him and asked him questions, I wish I'd spent the time doing something more useful.
[quote][p][bold]Gay Ray[/bold] wrote: A saving of over £85k per annum could be made at a stroke. Dispense with the Crime Commissioner![/p][/quote]Good God, I had to read this far down to get some common sense. Ditto. The man is vacuum. Having met him and asked him questions, I wish I'd spent the time doing something more useful. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -4

10:37pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
A man has to do what a man has got to do

Nick Alston knows what he is doing that is why I voted for him.
Unlike some around him.
But rest assured we can sleep at night with him overseeing the helm.

Jack
???????

You sure?
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: A man has to do what a man has got to do Nick Alston knows what he is doing that is why I voted for him. Unlike some around him. But rest assured we can sleep at night with him overseeing the helm. Jack[/p][/quote]??????? You sure? Kim Gandy
  • Score: -5

8:04am Tue 11 Mar 14

pembury53 says...

british n proud wrote:
Ok so money has been saved, At what cost, crime up, l dont care what the commissioner says, drug offenses, petty theft, robbery, assaults, rape, anti social behaviour, crime is alive & kicking, why! no visible policing !!!!
therein lies part of the problem..... 'drug offences' and petty theft are rife throughout the land and absorb an enormous amount of police and court resources and time...... I suspect if you had to choose the offences you would least like to be a victim of it would be robbery, assault or rape, and that is where the precious resource should be prioritised....
[quote][p][bold]british n proud[/bold] wrote: Ok so money has been saved, At what cost, crime up, l dont care what the commissioner says, drug offenses, petty theft, robbery, assaults, rape, anti social behaviour, crime is alive & kicking, why! no visible policing !!!![/p][/quote]therein lies part of the problem..... 'drug offences' and petty theft are rife throughout the land and absorb an enormous amount of police and court resources and time...... I suspect if you had to choose the offences you would least like to be a victim of it would be robbery, assault or rape, and that is where the precious resource should be prioritised.... pembury53
  • Score: 0

8:12am Tue 11 Mar 14

Bobshuruncle says...

instantly save half the budget by stopping all police activities after darkness. now that Essex council has turned the street lights out it will be too dark for the police to see anything on the streets. Oh no,hang on, I forgot you never see them out after dark anyway.
instantly save half the budget by stopping all police activities after darkness. now that Essex council has turned the street lights out it will be too dark for the police to see anything on the streets. Oh no,hang on, I forgot you never see them out after dark anyway. Bobshuruncle
  • Score: 3

10:32am Tue 11 Mar 14

Jack222 says...

But the police part of our council tax still went up...

I have no problem with them spending wisely - so don't listen to all the whingers who want to see expensive police officers walking the streets,...

And those who don't like the PCCC dont forget it's the Toru government who insisted we all had to have them...
But the police part of our council tax still went up... I have no problem with them spending wisely - so don't listen to all the whingers who want to see expensive police officers walking the streets,... And those who don't like the PCCC dont forget it's the Toru government who insisted we all had to have them... Jack222
  • Score: 0

11:43am Tue 11 Mar 14

Bobshuruncle says...

Jack222 wrote:
But the police part of our council tax still went up...

I have no problem with them spending wisely - so don't listen to all the whingers who want to see expensive police officers walking the streets,...

And those who don't like the PCCC dont forget it's the Toru government who insisted we all had to have them...
So you don't want police officers walking the streets ??
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: But the police part of our council tax still went up... I have no problem with them spending wisely - so don't listen to all the whingers who want to see expensive police officers walking the streets,... And those who don't like the PCCC dont forget it's the Toru government who insisted we all had to have them...[/p][/quote]So you don't want police officers walking the streets ?? Bobshuruncle
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11:51am Tue 11 Mar 14

Who_Flung_Dung says...

Saved 4million but Essex police are awful at the moment. Not a brain cell between them
Saved 4million but Essex police are awful at the moment. Not a brain cell between them Who_Flung_Dung
  • Score: -1

12:12pm Tue 11 Mar 14

A Very Primate Gentleman says...

What are you going on about now Gandy you racist bigot?

Of course I'm sure I'm Jack Edward owner of 3 motor vehicles, holder of secret insider information on the police and local council and self elected member of the smart party don't you dare question me.
What are you going on about now Gandy you racist bigot? Of course I'm sure I'm Jack Edward owner of 3 motor vehicles, holder of secret insider information on the police and local council and self elected member of the smart party don't you dare question me. A Very Primate Gentleman
  • Score: 3

3:38pm Tue 11 Mar 14

whateverhappened says...

They needed to save a few bob as the new 14 numbers plates are out soon, so new BMW estates all round for essex plod
They needed to save a few bob as the new 14 numbers plates are out soon, so new BMW estates all round for essex plod whateverhappened
  • Score: 0

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